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If Morris were supposed to come out with the hatchbacks, can you name one? Apart from the Marina, I can't think of a model under the Morris badge from that period or later - the Morris name seemed to die out around then. The Marina wasn't a hatchback in any of its variants.GRAHAMUK 12:26, 18 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Checked my sources and I got it wrong. It was actually that the Maxi was supposed to be 'the hatchback' and thus nothing else was allowed to be. --Morven 17:06, 18 Oct 2003 (UTC)

It is true that the Allegro is aerodynamically better going backwards than going forwards. However that is true of just about every car with a front mounted radiator Ironduke 15 Aug 2005

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[edit] The Dear Old Allegro

Yes - I had an M reg - 1973/4 1300cc beast - square wheel too back in the early 80s - 400pounds it cost me, and I'll say a couple of things for it. BL for their sins were testing out a few ideas for example: flat "ribbon" cables, flexible printed circuit board behind the dashboard, phosphor.. something coating for the paintwork to prevent rust. Trust me - that paint was almost as thick as the steel on a Ford Fiesta. Let's face it though it was a huge improvement over the Marina which was a cobbled together replacement for the Minor, and though mine suffered a couple of slight hiccups (the rear suspension units failed about 6 months apart). It was easy and cheap to service and run, and I sold it a couple of years later to the first buyer for what I asked for it - 250. The Fiat Mirafiori was much more fun tho' !


[edit] More Aerodynamic going backwards

I believe all cars with front air scoops are more aerodynamic backwards than going forwards. See comment above, it may take someone with too much time on their hands and access to a CFD program to prove this.

[edit] An interesting product badly presented and inadequately built.

I had an Allegro 1300 for about three years. I'm sorry to say that it was a truly awful experience. I thought the concept and design for the car were fine, and it was very comfortable and not unpleasant to drive (apart from the ludicrous quartic steering wheel). But it was badly put together and horrendously unreliable. An interesting product badly presented and inadequately built. 202.82.32.177 00:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Allegro in New Zealand

¨Allegros can still be seen on the roads of certain overseas markets as daily drivers, particularly in New Zealand

Pithy, but untrue. Since the lowering, and subsequent removal of tariffs on car importation in the 1980s and 1990s, the majority of used cars in the NZ fleet are late-model Japanese Domestic models with a far higher spec than most other right-hand drive countries. It is true that for much of the 1970s and 80s, the awful and hopelessly antiquated (even at the time) BMCs were one of the few choices for NZ drivers. The statement is false and should be removed from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.211.99.217 (talk) 05:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please, then, would you have a moment to get yourself a wiki identity (takes about thirty seconds) and correct the statement? Maybe the Allegro remained common in NZ after they'd almost all rusted away in England because NZ has a dryer and less sulpurous climate? As a west European I'm impressed by the number of old English built cars that seem to survive in warm dry corners of Australia and in Malta long after they've disappeared from UK highways. But presumably they still mostly rust away in the end, even where the climate is kind. From what you write that's what happened to the dear old Kiwi Andante: but my speculative thoughts have no place in a wiki article. The assertion that there are still lots of Allegros in NZ has a curious prominence in the article the way it looks right now. But most readers of the piece have never been to NZ. No doubt that's our loss. If you live there, or regularly visit the country. or have access to government statistics concerning how many Allegros are still registered, you could correct the article with much more authority than the rest of us. In the name of a closer approach to truth, please do it! And thank you. Charles01 20:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello Charles, at the risk of appearing enigmatic (but in actual fact, just lazy), I have not registered (as is still completely acceptable protocol on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedians ) but have made the necessary edits to the page to ensure completeness and accuracy. New Zealand is not a particularly warm or dry climate, as can easily be researched above. The Austin Allegro, while a charming and altogether historically interesting motorcar, is not regularly seen on NZ roads. Perhaps you should challenge the original author of the 'NZ' material for a 'proper' explanation. lazykiwi 01:43, 2 October 2007 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.74.216.109 (talk)

Looks a good solution to me. I guess the wiki normal procedure - one of them - might have been for one of us to enter a little 'citation needed' box by the New Zealand comment, and then see if anyone removed the comment (or provided the citation). Either way, even if it had been true, it didn't seem to me the sort of comment that belonged in the intro para (unless one were compiling a special wiki for New Zealanders and as far as I know we're not). So I cannot think that your having removed the contentious (as in wrong / out of date) statement since last I looked will stir too much controversy!Regards Charles01 13:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


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