Talk:Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

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i had written in the succession box that after alfred, prince philip was duke of edinburgh. it was deleted with the specification that philip did not inherit the title from alfred. that is very true, but that does not mean that philip was not duke of edinburgh after alfred and that no-one else was duke of edinburgh inbetween. just like with the title of princess royal where there can be difference of hundreds of years between two princesses royals and they don't inherit it from each other. it says nowhere that in order for someone to succeed he has to inherit what he succeeds...

Contents 1 Infoboxes 2 Page Movement 3 Minor Issues 4 Why not DUke of York? 5 Arms

[edit] Infoboxes

Which of these should we remove? I feel that the Ducal House of SCG can go, as the Royal Famiy would "outrank" the Ducal family. Two infoboxes like this makes for a cluttered article. Any ideas? Prsgoddess187 02:24, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

i agree with you, if one of them should go, it's the scg one. but i think the article is large enough to permit both of them. ilya 11:53, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

They should both stay, as he was both of them. GoodDay (talk) 23:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page Movement

Where was the consensus to move this page from Prince Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha? Now it's out of sync with his brothers & sisters (not including King Edward VII). GoodDay (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It does not matter if it is out of sync with his brothers and sisters. Alfred was a sovereign duke and there is a convention laying out the titling used on Wikipedia for those at WP:NC(NT). British princely status is not superior and he is not bound to be titled as such just because he was a member of the British Royal Family. Charles 00:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, note, the page move was a restorative one. The previous move was not discussed and did not have a basis in the naming conventions. Charles 00:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 00:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that, I made the same assumption as GoodDay — cheers Charles ^† DBD 11:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

No need to apologize, it was in good faith! Charles 12:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Issues

I believe the last entry in the Heir to the British Throne section is inaccurate. "On January 14, 1892, when Prince Albert Victor died, he once again became sixth in line to the throne." This fails to take into account that a grandniece, Lady Alexandra Duff, had been born in May 1891 and would have preceded him in line to the throne.

Also, in the box listing his children, his daughter Beatrice is listed as married to the 3rd Duke of Galliera. Beatrice's own article says he was the 5th Duke. Mapjc (talk) 14:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why not DUke of York?

I was wondering why if he was the next brother of the heir to the throne he was not created Duke of York as always used in the peerage of England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I try to found any reference to this but the article lacks any information, can someone please give me some explanation, and it would be very nice to add it to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lefairh (talk • contribs) 23:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I've read it suggested that Victoria was intending for her sons' primary titles to (a) be distanced from her Hanoverian forebears and (b) be named for places in the home nations other than England (hence Wales, Edinburgh, Connaught and Albany). ^† DBD 22:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh thanks for the answer! Lefairh (talk) 19:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arms

I think we should use the arms of a sovereign for a sovereign, rather than the arms he had as a junior member of another ruling house... Charles 07:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Imagine if George I were to have his Hanoverian shield instead of his British one. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 08:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I would argue he should have both if the arms of Hanover were different from the arms of Great Britain and Ireland at the time ;) Charles 19:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. *Sigh* you win. ;) PeterSymonds (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)